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Temporary Citation Object

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:32 pm
by laup
The new bibliograpic features are very nice. I have been using the Scan/Unscan feature quite a bit. However, the temporary citation object now appears to be different: larger than previously. If I print, the temporary citations appear along with the main text and can be rather confusing and diverting, as in "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy stream Jones, 2002, #3145.."

Is there a setting to change the appearance of the temporary citation objects, especially when printed? If not, it's not the end of the world, since one can now scan, print things looking proper, and then unscan when going back to edit.

Another question on the bibliogrpahy stuff. Is there a way to see more of the name of the citation in the Citations in Document box? I find that where there are multiple references in the same year with the same lead author, it's not clear which reference one wants to use.

Re: Temporary Citation Object

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:47 am
by joewiz
pkensildavis wrote:The new bibliograpic features are very nice. I have been using the Scan/Unscan feature quite a bit. However, the temporary citation object now appears to be different: larger than previously. If I print, the temporary citations appear along with the main text and can be rather confusing and diverting, as in "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy stream Jones, 2002, #3145.."

Is there a setting to change the appearance of the temporary citation objects, especially when printed? If not, it's not the end of the world, since one can now scan, print things looking proper, and then unscan when going back to edit.
Assuming you're using Bookends, the setting that governs the temporary citation appearance is actually on Bookends' end, in Preferences > Scan & Bib > Cite By. From the pull-down menu, choose "Content" for the long setting that includes the title that you observed, or "Author, Date, Unique ID" for the short setting.

same problem....but with Sente

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:27 pm
by isleofman
I am having the same issue as the OP.

I just downloaded and installed Mellel 2.2 and have the most recent version of Sente of well. Whereas dragging and dropping the citation from Sente before appeared like:

Willcox 02

They citation now appear as:

Willcox 02#54ED6C1A-DA34-49C3-9F59-44C73C702671

Any suggestions?

Thanks so much!!

Re: same problem....but with Sente

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:16 am
by joewiz
isleofman wrote:Willcox 02#54ED6C1A-DA34-49C3-9F59-44C73C702671
Wow - that long? Definitely sounds like a bug, somewhere between Bookends and Mellel. You may try posting this at the Bookends forum for ideas.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:48 am
by isleofman
Any more assistance here?

Just to reiterate, I am using Sente, not Bookends as my citation manager.

How do I get the references in my document to appear like

Tallóczy 06

rather than,

Tallóczy 06#FEFF7A97-0CE7-48DD-A550-059AA477758D


As they currently appear. The long string of numbers is very disorienting!

Thanks so much

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:01 pm
by joewiz
You may have some luck posting at the Sente forum.

Re: Temporary Citation Object

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:49 pm
by FA1
pkensildavis wrote:The new bibliograpic features are very nice. I have been using the Scan/Unscan feature quite a bit. However, the temporary citation object now appears to be different: larger than previously. .
I have the same issue, it used to be smaller text. When I updated it became the same size as my regular text. The pref in Bookends can switch the type of citation, but I'm not sure where to change the size.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:22 am
by isleofman
Okay, so I have cross-posted on the Sente forum, but nothing there so far. This issue only became apparent when I upgraded to the v2.2 of Mellel, so i think it has to do with Mellel. I am using a Mac Book Pro....

Thanks for some help.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:15 pm
by FA1
bump

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:45 am
by joewiz
Have you written to the Redlers directly? Check the Mellel support webpage for the address.