Hi.
I'm trying to type "sin" (as opposed to "shin") using SBL Hebrew in Mellel, with Hebrew-QWERT layout. One can type "shin" by pressing shift + w but I cannot seem to find what the right key is for "sin." I'd appreciate any help! Thanks.
Ken
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Ken,
You can always use the Keyboard Viewer to find the right key combinations.
[You have to select the Keyboard Viewer "on" in System Preferences/International/Input Menu. Then, you can access it from the "flag" on the menu bar.]
You can even "type" in characters using the Viewer.
When I was first learning to touch-type NIKUD, I kept the Viewer open all the time as a reference.
Janet
You can always use the Keyboard Viewer to find the right key combinations.
[You have to select the Keyboard Viewer "on" in System Preferences/International/Input Menu. Then, you can access it from the "flag" on the menu bar.]
You can even "type" in characters using the Viewer.
When I was first learning to touch-type NIKUD, I kept the Viewer open all the time as a reference.
Janet
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Don / Janet,
Thank you! Ironically, my problem was actually relying on the information from Keyboard Viewer. On my system, at least, SBL Hebrew in Hewbrew-QWERTY has problems displaying the dots correctly in Keyboard Viwer.
In Mellel w types "sin" with no dots above, shift+w types shin, with dot on the upper right corner, and opt+shift+w types sin, with dot on the upper left corner. But in the Keyboard Viewer the dots are represented in a misleading manner. Hence my confusion. Thanks again for your help!
Ken
Thank you! Ironically, my problem was actually relying on the information from Keyboard Viewer. On my system, at least, SBL Hebrew in Hewbrew-QWERTY has problems displaying the dots correctly in Keyboard Viwer.
In Mellel w types "sin" with no dots above, shift+w types shin, with dot on the upper right corner, and opt+shift+w types sin, with dot on the upper left corner. But in the Keyboard Viewer the dots are represented in a misleading manner. Hence my confusion. Thanks again for your help!
Ken
You're right: Keyboard Viewer for Hebrew-QWERTY is incorrect with SBL Hebrew. How strange.
Hebrew-QWERTY is correct with Ezra SIL SR.
I wonder if the error isn't also reflected in the keyboard combinations. With Ezra SIL SR, "sin" is alt-w and "shin" is shift-w. I suspect this is the standard.
I use the Hebrew keyboard and have never experienced this problem with any fonts with NIKUD.
Janet
Hebrew-QWERTY is correct with Ezra SIL SR.
I wonder if the error isn't also reflected in the keyboard combinations. With Ezra SIL SR, "sin" is alt-w and "shin" is shift-w. I suspect this is the standard.
I use the Hebrew keyboard and have never experienced this problem with any fonts with NIKUD.
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The selected font in keyboard viewer doesn't affect the characters that the keyboard layout actually generates. The differences seen in the keyboard viewer are mainly artifacts caused by the less the perfect hebrew rendering of the Mac OS text engine which the application uses to draw the key caps.
The best option is to stick with lucida grande for the keyboard viewer, even if you're typing with another font.
Also note that the the keystrokes for shin and sin are shift+w and option+w (and not shift+option+w)
The best option is to stick with lucida grande for the keyboard viewer, even if you're typing with another font.
Also note that the the keystrokes for shin and sin are shift+w and option+w (and not shift+option+w)
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