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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by Boban » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:38 am

Aside from the usual items for the wishlist (cross refs and indexing) I would like to be able to have footnote numbers, with no full stop, followed by a tab. One of my publishers has this as a house style (superscript fn number, tab, note text).

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by ozean » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:23 am

Boban wrote:I would like to be able to have footnote numbers, with no full stop, followed by a tab.
This is already possible – did you check the settings in the note section in Style Sets > Edit Style Sets… and in Insert > Note > Edit Note Attributes… ?

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by daiyi » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:34 pm

2.5

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by frvs » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:28 pm

daiyi wrote:2.5
I beg your pardon? Yes, April Fool's day is a fun date. Ah, but who would believe these days that 2.5 will be out before we all have turned into very old people brooding upon how successful our distant academic careers might have been if only we had had that very complete and miraculous word-processor we SOOOO longed for?

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by Boban » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:36 pm

I tried to post a reply, but must have hit the wrong button or something; my post is gone (and I can't be bothered to retype the entire thing at this moment). Nevertheless, there is no option for footnote numbers to be: # + tab; they all have brackets or a full stop or something else....


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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by ozean » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:02 pm

here it is (screenshot taken from in Insert > Note > Edit Note Attributes…):
footnote-tab.png

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by Boban » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:04 am

Oh dear, you're right; sorry about that. I had assumed (without trying) that 'none' meant, well, 'none'. All sorted now. Another Mellel dream come true.

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by fastmiso » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:57 pm

One thing that hasn't come up in a long time is Conditional Text, something I used a lot in FrameMaker. (The last [and only?] mention, I think, was by ptram: http://forum.redlers.com/viewtopic.php? ... onal#p5255.)

I suppose that, in the case of academics, the conditional text is often of the sort 'if ($reader == "self") {}', so the Comments feature request gets more attention. But I just want to emphasize that, even in the case of 'if ($reader == self) {}', I would much rather have those paragraphs in-line, with whatever formatting and citations I had, than in the margin in some Post-It Note-looking text widget. And, as in ptram's post, the benefits for technical writers is also clear (for example, 'if ($version == "Pro") {}').

Not sure if I'm alone on this, but had to mention it. Today there happens to be a wacky idea I want to apply 'if ($reader != "press")' to.

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by Boban » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:17 am

I hesitate to ask, but is there any ETA for next Mellel update and what it might include?

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by soliphint » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:32 am

I note the latest Macworld, in it short blurb about other word processors, mentions Mariner Write and Nisus Pro, but doesn't mention Mellel. Maybe they know what the rest of us are reluctant to admit - Mellel's development is all but dead.

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by Boban » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:04 am

Cripes! I'd like to know this sooner, rather than later, as I am well into a large book project.

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by Ori Redler » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:13 pm

soliphint wrote:I note the latest Macworld, in it short blurb about other word processors, mentions Mariner Write and Nisus Pro, but doesn't mention Mellel. Maybe they know what the rest of us are reluctant to admit - Mellel's development is all but dead.

Not true, but I'll need to explain the circumstances of the last year a bit. In laymen's terms, and without getting into complicated programming terms, what happened this year is the following:
A. One of the developers gained a new home, a girlfriend, her two sons (and two dog).
B. The second gained a new home and a girlfriend.
C. The third said goodbye to all that and A and B had to find someone to replace him.
D. And an additional programmer.
Hence, it would not be too presumptuous of me to claim that within the fair borders of reasonable doubt A and B got a life and during that getting of life had less time to devout to development.

It would have been nice of reality to introduce all those changes at once and not piecemeal, but this is not how it happened.

Anyway, life permitting, we intend to go in 2008 and get to the fast pace of development that typified the first five years of Mellel (2002-2006)...

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by ozean » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:24 pm

It's good to hear that the reasons for the delays were good reasons, i.e. nice things happened to you instead of bad things like accidents! I also actually like this about small software companies – they are real people, who can thus listen and act according to arguments concerning quality more than quantity. I don't want to Mellel to be written primarily according to “the laws of the market” – I like Mellel to be written according to what some nice people agree upon as being good, high quality software.

(So now I put on my wishlist: Get those girlfriends into Cocoa programming and hire them too ;) )

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by Timotheus » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:14 pm

Anyway, life permitting, we intend to go in 2008 and get to the fast pace of development that typified the first five years of Mellel (2002-2006)...

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Re: Wishlist 2008

Post by konanken » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:41 am

Timotheus wrote:Anyway, life permitting, we intend to go in 2008 and get to the fast pace of development that typified the first five years of Mellel (2002-2006)...

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