How does one write letters over one another? I don’t mean suprascript, nor 'overwriting' in the sense it is used in the guide, but really writing one over the other, occupying the same vertical space, but one of them lifted above the other. This is often found in Greek papyrus-manuscripts that I have to reproduce. I used to be able to do it easily in the good old Word 5.1. Since then it has become prohibitively difficult in Word using an equation-editor, the use of which apparently requires a diploma I have not got. Up to now I have made these letter combinations on my old and fragile Mac in Word 5.1 and then exported them to my current machine and Word X, but Mellel will not let me paste such things and there surely must be an easier and better way of doing it.
Bülow
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Re: over-writing letters
I found something that works, but it's pretty messy: use the baseline shift in the Character Appearance palette. If you make the shift big enough, you can get one line to print on top the other.Bulow wrote:How does one write letters over one another? I don’t mean suprascript, nor 'overwriting' in the sense it is used in the guide, but really writing one over the other, occupying the same vertical space, but one of them lifted above the other.
I better solution, I think, will take longer at first, but should give better results: use one of the font creation tools to make yourself a special font of those letter combinations you need.
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Re: over-writing letters
The interest in this subject has not been overwhelming, but thanks to Januss, although his solutions were not useable. The solution is in MathMagic, as written in the guide (yes I have read it). Make your superimposed letter in MathMagic (costs about €50), make a fair amount of massage to make it display in Greek, change of style &c, and paste them back into Mellel. It is still easier than doing the same thing in the Equation Editor of Word. But take care:
MATHMAGIC DOES NOT SUPPORT UNICODE
I find it absolute incredible that I cannot buy tobacco for my pipe without having it plastered with futile warnings, while they can sell a program as the latest cry in 2008 and only afterwards admit, as if it were a minor thing, that it is not unicode compatible. I happen, quite by accident, to have an old, non-unicode Greek font that looks like the one I am using now, so I shall be OK as long as this works.
Bülow
MATHMAGIC DOES NOT SUPPORT UNICODE
I find it absolute incredible that I cannot buy tobacco for my pipe without having it plastered with futile warnings, while they can sell a program as the latest cry in 2008 and only afterwards admit, as if it were a minor thing, that it is not unicode compatible. I happen, quite by accident, to have an old, non-unicode Greek font that looks like the one I am using now, so I shall be OK as long as this works.
Bülow
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Re: over-writing letters
Since you mentioned MathMagic, have you tried LaTeXiT? It may work the way you want and it's both free and supports Unicode (as far as I can tell).
LaTeXiT supports LinkBack as well and hopefully Mellel will support LinkBack in the future.
LaTeXiT supports LinkBack as well and hopefully Mellel will support LinkBack in the future.
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Re: over-writing letters
Thanks. I have downloaded LaTexIt and, as you say, it is indeed unicode compatible and will write accentuated Greek. I don't yet see how I can choose the font. I must take the time (some other time) to find out how it works, which is not immediately obvious. Too many gadgets that 'seem to be absent from my system'.
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Re: over-writing letters
MathMagic have issued a new version (6.1) which is still not unicode compatible. They do, however, answer me that 'we have a plan to support UNICODE, the schedule is not fixed yet. (roughly Oct. 2009 ~ Jun. 2010)'
So, patience.
Bülow
So, patience.
Bülow