Dear All,
I have a little question and wonder if anyone can help.
I'm using Bookends to produce a document which uses citations in footnotes with a separate format for my bibliography.
In the Mellel preferences, I have the option to control exactly how my Bookends Bibliography format is mapped into the correct Bibliography Paragraph style (with character style and variation controlled too). This works great.
However, I don't seem to have the same control over my footnote citations. When I scan the document (or if I even paste-formatted from Bookends), the character style of the document (or the footnote) is overridden by the incoming format, creating a modified form of the style ie. 'Note Text +'.
For example, I am using the font Minion Pro size 10.5 in my footnotes, with titles in Italics. However when I scan my document, all of the citations are converted into different font styles: 'Minion Pro Caption' with titles in 'Italics-condensed'.
I cannot work out where this has been set to do this, or how to control or prevent it. I simply want the formatted citation to map to the paragraph style I have created ie. Minion Pro (Base) and Titles in italics (Variation C).
Is there a way to do this, without having to go and 'Replace Styles' each time I do a scan?
Any tips gratefully received.
Thanks
Citation Format Overrides
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Re: Citation Format Overrides
I have the same problem. In-text citations after a bibliography scan end up in a different style/font from the rest of the paragraph.
How can it be set so that the citation (the bit in brackets with author page etc) stays in same style as paragraph.
regards, John
How can it be set so that the citation (the bit in brackets with author page etc) stays in same style as paragraph.
regards, John
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Re: Citation Format Overrides
I have also encountered this problem, which I find very annoying. Fixing this seems to me a higher priority than some of the functional improvements coming alone. Surely, it's not hard to specify that something coming from Bookends (or another bibliographic program) will assume the style of the target paragraph.
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Re: Citation Format Overrides
I'm not sure about the OP's issue, although he/she might want to check the bibliography preferences in Mellel, and make sure the mappings from bookends input to Mellel styles is set properly.
However, I have also observed the second issue, where scanned text suddenly changes format. This sometimes happens if the text for the un-scanned citation is of a different style, or has some style modifications, to the rest of the paragraph. Then whenever you re-scan, the style of the un-scanned citation is applied to the formatted citation text. You need to double-click on the citation to bring up the "edit citation" dialog, select all the text in the unformatted field and use the paragraph style or character style panels to re-set the desired style. You can do the same for the formatted citation too. Then it should stick!
This behaviour might be considered a bug. It seems to me that when you apply a style to a formatted citation, that style should be pushed down to the unformatted citation text as well.
DRM
However, I have also observed the second issue, where scanned text suddenly changes format. This sometimes happens if the text for the un-scanned citation is of a different style, or has some style modifications, to the rest of the paragraph. Then whenever you re-scan, the style of the un-scanned citation is applied to the formatted citation text. You need to double-click on the citation to bring up the "edit citation" dialog, select all the text in the unformatted field and use the paragraph style or character style panels to re-set the desired style. You can do the same for the formatted citation too. Then it should stick!
This behaviour might be considered a bug. It seems to me that when you apply a style to a formatted citation, that style should be pushed down to the unformatted citation text as well.
DRM
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Re: Citation Format Overrides
Right. Surely this is a bug, and one that by coincidence has just recently bitten me. Let's ask the Redlers to fix this.It seems to me that when you apply a style to a formatted citation, that style should be pushed down to the unformatted citation text as well.