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Now that Lion is out…

Post by kjmatthews » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:42 pm

…are there any plans to implement "Versions" in Mellel?

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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by nvalvo » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:46 pm

Just to reiterate: this is pretty important for us all to know, and soon.

That said, having gone ahead impetuously and upgraded to Lion, I can add a data point for all of you that Mellel works as before, at least on the one fairly simple document I've worked on. The new scrollbars are even attractive in the Mellel aqua interface, which is not the case with some applications, e.g., pre-update Pages.

So, Redlers, while the apparent compatibility means I'll be patient while you get a 'Lionized' update together, I'm a bit antsy to hear about your plans.

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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by centralasian » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:35 am

Mellel is working fine for me too. I upgraded right near the end of a project involving rtl text, 1400+ pages, multiple sections, styles, automation all over... and it's great! I might add it actually seems to run a little quicker. Prior to Lion when I edited something on page 1287 there was a pause, the spinning beach ball would appear, then another longer pause (sometimes long enough to make me think it had stalled), then the change. Now, there is just a pause. :) :D
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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by Eyal Redler » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:20 pm

We'll post more details soon but we are planning to adopt the new Lion features like auto-save/versions, iCloud and full screen in the version after 2.9 (which is coming very very soon).
Mellel 2.8.2 is compatible with Lion so this issue should not hold back people from upgrading to Lion.
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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by daiyi » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:07 pm

Great! Hope to see long-awaited Comments as well. It seems that Comments would be a natural function to have added when Track Changes was implemented. Will Comments be forthcoming anytime soon?

Thanks. Keep up the good work.

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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by russael » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:02 am

I've been using Mellel for long documents (up to 1000 pages) for years. Works great.

I switched to lion and scroll doesn't work. Sure, I can use the mouse, and I can page up and down, but I need to be able to click on the scroll icon in the vertical scroll bar and move it up or down a few pages or a hundred pages, etc., which I no longer can do. This is a downright hassle for my work. I checked in preferences, manual, and whatnot, no mention of what I might need to do to make scroll work. I hear it's working for others.

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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by rpcameron » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:13 pm

russael wrote:I've been using Mellel for long documents (up to 1000 pages) for years. Works great.

I switched to lion and scroll doesn't work. Sure, I can use the mouse, and I can page up and down, but I need to be able to click on the scroll icon in the vertical scroll bar and move it up or down a few pages or a hundred pages, etc., which I no longer can do. This is a downright hassle for my work. I checked in preferences, manual, and whatnot, no mention of what I might need to do to make scroll work. I hear it's working for others.
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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by ablaze » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:06 am

Eyal Redler wrote:We'll post more details soon but we are planning to adopt the new Lion features like auto-save/versions, iCloud and full screen in the version after 2.9 (which is coming very very soon).
Mellel 2.8.2 is compatible with Lion so this issue should not hold back people from upgrading to Lion.
Could you please, please, release an update supporting Versions, Fullscreen, and iCloud support without implementing other features that could delay the arrival of these?! I wish the new stuff that is really cool in Lion and essential for the new experience could be implemented fast and not be tied to improvements to the core functionality, which I like very much as it is now.

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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by Eyal Redler » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:29 pm

ablaze wrote:Could you please, please, release an update supporting Versions, Fullscreen, and iCloud support without implementing other features that could delay the arrival of these?! I wish the new stuff that is really cool in Lion and essential for the new experience could be implemented fast and not be tied to improvements to the core functionality, which I like very much as it is now.
We are looking forward very eagerly to adopt the exciting Lion features and we plan to devote a version for this adoption so you'll be able to get these as soon as possible.
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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by ablaze » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:51 am

That sounds exciting. Thanks for the statement.

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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by DylanMuir » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:10 am

russael wrote:I switched to lion and scroll doesn't work. Sure, I can use the mouse, and I can page up and down, but I need to be able to click on the scroll icon in the vertical scroll bar and move it up or down a few pages or a hundred pages, etc., which I no longer can do.
In my testing, you can scroll to make the scroll bar appear, and then grab the scroll bar before it disappears again. THen you can zip up and down as much as you like.

Did setting the scroll bar to always be visible also help?

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Re: Now that Lion is out…

Post by suavito » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:10 pm

russael wrote:I've been using Mellel for long documents (up to 1000 pages) for years. Works great.

I switched to lion and scroll doesn't work. Sure, I can use the mouse, and I can page up and down, but I need to be able to click on the scroll icon in the vertical scroll bar and move it up or down a few pages or a hundred pages, etc., which I no longer can do. This is a downright hassle for my work. I checked in preferences, manual, and whatnot, no mention of what I might need to do to make scroll work. I hear it's working for others.
About which preferences are you talking? You can set the scroll bars to always show in the OS Lion preferences under General Appearance (or whatever it is called in English; it's the very first preference). The default is "automatic", which means you only see the scroll bars when you are scrolling already. The scroll bars in Lion are meant to be indicators of your position in a window more than actual scroll bars. Which is fine when you are using a track pad but not with a mouse. Luckily the preferences are programmed flexible enough to fix that.
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