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iPad and Mac sync

Post by darthkt » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:36 pm

I had understood that having Mellel for iPad and a non-MAS copy of Mellel would still sync through iCloud. Am I missing something?

The iPad iCloud document viewer shows a Mellel folder, but the folder doesn't show up on the Mac. I am running 10.11.1 beta on the Mac and 9.1 on the iPad.

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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by rpcameron » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:45 pm

Non-Mac App Store versions of any software cannot access the iCloud filesystem. That functionality is a carrot (or stick, depending upon your view) that Apple uses to get applications into the MAS; if you want iCloud features, you have to buy/sell through the App Store.

There is a rough workaround, involving searching through your ~/Library/Mobile Documents folder (or similar, I can't recall the exact location right now), and accessing the iCloud files that way; however direct access like that is not guaranteed to have the most up-to-date synced versions of the document ...
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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by farcas » Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:16 am

Just to be clear: If I bought Mellel from the online store and I have iOS Mellel on my iPad, I cannot sync them via iCloud?

Is the only solution: buy Mellel (again) on the Apple app store?


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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by rpcameron » Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:33 am

Correct. Only applications purchased through Apple's Mac App Store can access iCloud Sync, because it needs to be signed by Apple. (At least, that was the case when it was unveiled. Apple may have changed their developer rules, but I am unaware of such a change. This was one method Apple used to force developers to sell through the MAS, and hence take a cut of each sale.)
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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by Declan » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:47 pm

I seem to recall that it used to work fine. Am I to understand that I would have to repurchase Mellel to have the sync back?
That would be unfortunate.

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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by rpcameron » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:10 pm

As I understand it, you can manually store your files in 'iCloud Drive', and access them from both Mac and iOS. However, all your Macs must be on Yosemite or later, your iOS devices must be running iOS 8 or later, and you must have upgraded your AppleID to use iCloud Drive. In this manner, iCloud Drive will function much like Dropbox or OneDrive on the Mac.

However, iCloud syncing is a bit different, and I believe syncing settings and an application's direct access to lower-level aspects of iCloud is only granted to applications bought through the Mac App Store.

Therefore, if you manually copy your files to your iCloud Drive in the Finder, or save directly to your iCloud Drive in Mellel, this should work fine. But, you must manually put your desktop files there.
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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by farcas » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:42 pm

Then if you create a new mellel doc on iPad will it sync over to iCloud on Mac?


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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by rpcameron » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:45 pm

farcas wrote:Then if you create a new mellel doc on iPad will it sync over to iCloud on Mac?


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I do not use Mellel on an iPad, so I am uncertain where its document store is. I believe it will appear in a Mellel folder in iCloud Drive. You can also enable the iCloud Drive app on iOS through Settings, and it will appear on your Home screen, allowing you to browse the files there.
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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by frvs » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:08 am

Hello,

I did not buy Mellel for Mac on the MAS, and yet the synchronization with Mellel on the iPad is faultless. Yes, when you create a new document on the iPad it appears (instantly) on iCloud. I'm not clear whether Mellel for iPad created its own folder on iCloud or whether I did it myself. Anyway, sync works fine, and it is very fast. Really wonderful, I must say.

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Re: iPad and Mac sync

Post by farcas » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:15 pm

Thanks!

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