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Figure captions

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:15 pm
by JohnAtl
Before I abandon Mellel, I just want to confirm that captions cannot be attached to images and figures. Is that correct?

Re: Figure captions

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:41 pm
by Bulow
As for me, I am not on the point of abandoning Mellel, but I am afraid you are right. At least I have never found how to do it.
It would be a very nice feature and I often need it.

Re: Figure captions

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:24 pm
by benjaminpelissie
I achieve that by referencing from the text legend to the picture in question. Not ideal though. That is one of the many little things that are still lacking with Mellel; it can be quite tricky to actually keep a nice structure in long documents.

Re: Figure captions

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:42 am
by Pharaoh
I understand the frustration. Mellel has very beautiful feature, but when I use something to write I need to think about the final output. I confess, as long as someone else is doing the design of the final version of my paper or book, Mellel works perfectly, as an editor will use InDesign for me, so I do not really care what the paper will look.
If I need to do something I want to have more control about the final layout, or you do a two step procedure:
1. I write my paper in Mellel/Word/whatever
2. I then proceed to make a very beautiful layout in InDesign


You need to go through LaTeX. Just for your information, I have written my second book with xeLateX. While certainly painful, he gave me the final results I searched for. But I needed to work with coding, and look back and forth between the code and the final page.
Please bear in mind that I am an Egyptologist, so I needed to mix hieroglyphs, texts and plates/figures - I know Bulow's work BTW. I am not a Maths/Computer specialist.

So I stick with Mellel as it is easy to work with Bookends, as long as I do not have to process the final version of the document.

I hope my description may help.

Re: Figure captions

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:14 pm
by Icelander
benjaminpelissie wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:24 pm
I achieve that by referencing from the text legend to the picture in question.
How do you do that? And how do you align the caption of a floating image?
Can you please give a step-by-step instruction how to do it?

Thank you

Re: Figure captions

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:55 pm
by benjaminpelissie
What I meant is that I keep the link between a figure and its caption. To do so I:
1. give the figure a title that is also going to be the title of the caption also, eg. "Figure 1"
2. assign a Cross reference target ID to the figure (double-click on it), that is usually the same as its title (or close enough, eg. "Fig. 1"), so that I avoid mismatches and keep track of everything
3. then, where I want the caption to be, instead of writing "Figure 1: blablabla" (blablabla being the actual caption), I insert a reference that calls for the created target ID of my figure (in the "existing target" field of the "Edit reference" window) and ask for the inserted element to be the image title (not Page # or any auto-title stuff), so that I get my "Figure 1: blablabla", but with "Figure 1" that is linked to the actual figure and dynamically updated if I change the figure's title/target ID.

I hope this will help (but I also think you might have figured it out already; sorry if I misunderstood you). Like I said, it's not ideal. It also suggests clearly that the resources are available for this functionality to be implemented in the Image editing popover, along with every other image features that can be tweaked. I really expect to see that coming to Mellel... Overall, there's stil a lot of room for improvements in Mellel when it comes to figure, tables and boxes management.