Problem with direction when using English

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Problem with direction when using English

Post by shades » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:59 am

About two months ago, Mellel presented a curious and frustrating problem. When I type (in English) the direction is fine for reading—except for using punctuation. When I enter period, comma, etc. normally it should show up at the end of the sentence (which it has done for 8 years). However, with latest upgrade, the punctuation mark shows on the left side, and if I add another, it is added there (left-aligned, but also left direction). I have tried every possible combination with other templates, and nothing solves this. Basically Mellel is unusable to me

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Re: Problem with direction when using English

Post by macsailor » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:12 am

I tried to type (both in Swedish and English), and all the punctuations worked just fine. No problems whatsoever with neither commas nor periods behave odd in my texts.

I have the latest update of Mellel, the latest macOS on my MBP retina 2012.
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Re: Problem with direction when using English

Post by jannuss » Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:34 am

Rich, a little more info please:

which languages are you using and how are they defined?
-- in file/document setup what is the binding direction?
-- in the character palette/options, which script are you using? which direction has been set?

which font(s) are involved?
-- I hope not Times New Roman which is notoriously buggy in some versions.

If you could send a short example, that might help us identify the problem.

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Re: Problem with direction when using English

Post by shades » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:36 am

Thank you, Janet.

It's going to take me a couple days to get back to this, I injured my back and knee in a fall, and I am battling a severe chest cold.

As I was thinking about this, my copy of Mellel on my laptop works perfectly, so I will be able to compare and with your suggestions/questions, it looks like I will be able to get it going again.

Thank you
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Re: Problem with direction when using English

Post by jannuss » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:17 am

Get well quickly!
Then ket us know how things progress

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Re: Problem with direction when using English

Post by shades » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:17 am

Well after the injury, I have been in the hospital, pneumonia, infection, severe bone and muscle pain in both hands (inside and out)... so I'm just now getting back to life. But not fully functional.
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Re: Problem with direction when using English

Post by jannuss » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:24 am

Wow!

Take care of yourself -- hope 2020 will see you totally on the mend.

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Re: Problem with direction when using English

Post by shades » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:36 pm

Still taking tests of my body...

But I spent a little time today and thought through this. I found the problem.

In the character palette, I had "Body" and in lower right corner of the character attributes page under "Open Type," at some point that was changed to Hebrew and direction was set for right-to-left. I don't remember doing it. But once I switched to English and set "Default" for direction, the problem disappeared.

Whew!
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