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and on to 3.1

Post by jannuss » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:36 pm

I understand that live bibliography is a BIG DEAL
and
language switching is definitely cool
but
may I add a very kind words for the (many) other important updates we'd like to see in 3.1

For example
-- indexing
-- improvements in sections (non-symmetric columns, column flow, etc.)
-- improving tables
etc., etc., etc.

Janet

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by markusbern » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:09 pm

I enjoy the new GUI and the new features.

But
--> I need sections and tables over several pages.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by kjmatthews » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:53 pm

The 3.0 update was a major improvement for the way I use Mellel/Bookends, not just thanks to the major features (language switching and live bibliography) but to smaller improvements as well (especially the enhanced granularity of page and section settings).

Since the Redlers began a discussion on indexing in April 2011, I hoped it would find its way into 3.0, but alas. It is the only feature I'm still looking for in my workflow!

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by Timotheus » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:13 am

@kjmatthews: the discussion on indexing was restarted, not started, in april 2011. It was started by the Redlers themselves in 2006 (!). See here.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by DanZac » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:59 pm

They need to bring the Sente integration up to par with the Bookends integration as well.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by simifilm » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:37 am

Although I don't really need it, indexing is probably a given for the next version. Some things I (still) like to see:
  • The ability to have multiple Auto-Titles on the same level of hierarchy. I often have the situation where a title type (for example a chapter) can be either numbered or unnumbered. Unfortunately, it's not possible to have two variants of the same title which look differently but will be displayed on the same level in the outline pane.
  • Correct export of comments
  • .docx import/export.
  • Track changes needs improvements: The ability to accept several changes at once is vital. In a document with lots of changes this really becomes a big deal.
  • Print document without the changes.
  • The way Mellel behaves when there are many changes, is far from ideal. A typical situation: I get a document with many changes. Mellel will then display the changes on the left and when there are too many to display an arrow at the bottom allows me to switch between the sets of changes. Now if I don't accept the first changes, I always have to click the arrow the go to the latter changes. If there are many changes in a document, this quickly adds up and wastes a lot of time.
  • Support for multiples bibliographies (primary, secondary …) in one document.
  • BibDesk support.
  • Zotero support.
  • Floating images and tables

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by jannuss » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:22 am

simifilm wrote: ...
Floating images and tables
We already have floating images -- are you unhappy with the implimentation?

As for "floating" tables. I think simply being able to justify a table would solve most of my issues

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by daiyi » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:23 pm

Comments feature, please.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by simifilm » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:21 pm

jannuss wrote:
simifilm wrote: ...
Floating images and tables
We already have floating images -- are you unhappy with the implimentation?

As for "floating" tables. I think simply being able to justify a table would solve most of my issues

Janet

Sorry, should have been more clear: I was thinking about LaTeX-style floating where you can define that an image stays at the top or bottom of a page.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by nicka » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:22 pm

Pdf table of contents.
Links in pdfs for footnotes, endnotes and bibliography references.
Also weblinks in exported pdfs.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by ealvarez » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:35 pm

Indexing would be great.

docx import/export is becoming a necessity for any word processor.

[Edit] Captions for Table and Figures would be a major feature.
Don't know if it would be realistic, but more and more I hear about (multi)markdown and html5 (in fact, I may use it in Scrivener) and it would be nice to easy the importation / exportation with Mellel instead to rely on .rtf.
Last edited by ealvarez on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by DylanMuir » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:58 am

I'm a little surprised that there's a live bibliography, but no live tables of contents. Live bib. requires a round-trip interaction with a piece of external software, whereas live contents would all be done within Mellel.

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by Hans-Reinhard Koch » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:55 pm

Yes, Janet, we have floating images, but no way to add legends (captions) to our floating images, much more urgent than tex-like placement and definitely something needed in scientific texts (time and again mentioned on this forum)
And secondly, yes Dylan, live TOCs would be an immense help
And thirdly, all of you, indexing, indexing, indexing … that would be my most important wishes for 3.1, or even better: 3.01
best regards,
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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by Declan » Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:10 pm

I really think that something that would facilitate working with texts that have been generated in Scrivener would be very important.

Examples that come to mind would include
(1) anything that would make selecting all instances of a certain paragraph and character style combination easier (it is not at all easy, right now, to identify these things through the replace styles dialogue), and imposing a new paragraph style on them
(2) the ability to select all instances of a particular style (generated in Scrivener, for example) and impose and define all of them as an autotitle. For example, any line of text that is Times, Bold and 14 pts could be identified as Section, and and anything that is Times, Bold and 12 pts could be identified as Subsection.

For what it's worth,

Declan

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Re: and on to 3.1

Post by Declan » Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:10 pm

I really think that something that would facilitate working with texts that have been generated in Scrivener would be very important.

Examples that come to mind would include
(1) anything that would make selecting all instances of a certain paragraph and character style combination easier (it is not at all easy, right now, to identify these things through the replace styles dialogue), and imposing a new paragraph style on them
(2) the ability to select all instances of a particular style (generated in Scrivener, for example) and impose and define all of them as an autotitle. For example, any line of text that is Times, Bold and 14 pts could be identified as Section, and and anything that is Times, Bold and 12 pts could be identified as Subsection.

For what it's worth,

Declan

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