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Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:00 pm
by Barletius
In Microsoft Word I may enter the footnotes field and "select all" — all footnotes in the current section or document. Then I may adjust the style to all the footnotes at once. Since I have more than 400 footnotes so far, this is essential. Can I do this in Mellel?

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:14 pm
by rpcameron
Change your document's footnote attributes in the 'Edit style sets…', or use the 'Edit note attributes…' option.

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:32 am
by Barletius
Thank you, but the problem is that I did not compose in Mellel and so the footnotes are not yet in the footnotes style. The reason I want to select all the footnotes is to change them from regular to footnote style.

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:56 pm
by rpcameron
I suppose I might be missing something. Are the notes you want to style not actually imported into a note stream, but are instead body text? If that's the case, then I don't believe there is anything you can to select them en masse.

However, if they are imported as notes, then getting them styled shouldn't be a problem. Create a note style, then modify the note attributes for that stream to use your new style. After making the changes, your imported notes should now be in keeping with your new style.

I haven't used notes in Mellel in a while, so if this is not the case, then I suppose there exists a major shortcoming in the app.

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:42 pm
by Barletius
Thank you. No, when I imported my document from Word, all the footnotes were positioned properly as footnotes, located at the bottom of each page, but without any style at all, much less as Footnotes Style. I am seeing "Character: Times New Roman Regular 10 (Base)" and "Paragraph: Par. style+"

I can click on one footnote and change its style from [no style] to Footnotes style. But I have some 400 existing, imported footnotes, and want to modify them all with one click. For example I can click [Command A] anywhere in the body to select all the text in the entire document. I want to do the same thing with the footnotes. In Microsoft Word I can click into the footnotes area and Command-A highlights every footnote, after which I can italicize, underline, etc., to every footnote, not just one at a time.

Mellel is not letting me do that at least in that way. Command-A in the footnote area only highlights that particular footnote, not all the footnotes. Am I making sense?

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:07 pm
by rpcameron
So it sounds like you notes are properly imported. Have you tried to apply a style to them through the Insert > Note > Edit note attributes… dialog? That should allow you to override all of your existing footnotes ...

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:45 am
by Barletius
Thank you. It did not work. Maybe Mellel could just add a select all footnotes feature. Seems simple enough feature. If Word can do it … certainly Mellel can!

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:22 pm
by Bulow
Barletius wrote:Thank you. It did not work. Maybe Mellel could just add a select all footnotes feature. Seems simple enough feature. If Word can do it … certainly Mellel can!
But it does work. Are you sure you have done everything Cameron said? Creating a new note-style in 'edit style sets' and then applying it through insert>note>edit note attributes where you choose the 'note styles' above left. Here you will find the new note-style that you have just defined. Chose it and OK. I often import from Word, and it works every time.
Bülow

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:05 pm
by farcas
I second this request for select all footnotes/endnotes, but for a different reason: I'd like to copy all my footnotes/endnotes.

Is this possible? Is there a work around?



Thanks!

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:15 pm
by peter.malik
farcas wrote:I second this request for select all footnotes/endnotes, but for a different reason: I'd like to copy all my footnotes/endnotes.

Is this possible? Is there a work around?



Thanks!
As far as I know, there isn't at the moment (I've asked Eyal before) and I, too, second this request. This is most desirable and would benefit greatly this already remarkable piece of software!

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:14 pm
by farcas
So feature request:

Select all footnotes (not just the one footnote your in)
Perhaps a ⌘ + A (twice)?


Thanks!

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:09 pm
by Gustave
This feature still doesn't exist ?

With Antidote you have to select the text to correct it. So Antidote will not work properly with Footnotes... :|

Re: Selecting all footnotes

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:06 pm
by Icelander
Gustave wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:09 pm
This feature still doesn't exist ?
I think the developer has made it clear that this feature will be implemented on Sankt Nimmerleinstag, as the Germans use to say (no, I'm not German.)

Mellel is the only major word processor today that doesn't offer non-contiguous selection, and apparently – based on what I have heard – never will. :–(

Robert Cameron explains the reason in a post that was written here in the forum more than 10 years ago (!)
Mellel uses a different text system than OS X, and therefore does not have some of the features that come with OS X's native text system (such as non-continguous selection, and 10.6's new text substitutions). The trade-off, however, is better OpenType support and true RTL support.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2255

I don't know what Robert means by "true RTL support". As far as I can see, Nisus Writer Pro has much better "RTL support" than Mellel.

PS:
Robert Cameron wrote many interesting posts here back in the old times (around 2013); he last visited the forum in 2017, so maybe he has now left the Mellel community altogether…