Hello, all,
Inserting page numbers after a citation, I seem to have lost the 'p.' or 'pp.' in front of the numbers. Is there a setting somewhere I'm missing?
Any help gratefully received.
Best to all,
Chris P.
Forcing 'p.' or 'pp.' in front of the p. no. in citations
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Re: Forcing 'p.' or 'pp.' in front of the p. no. in citations
I'd like to learn more about citations. I've got Bookends but have only scratched the surface with it.
What citation software are you using?
What citation software are you using?
Re: Forcing 'p.' or 'pp.' in front of the p. no. in citations
Different reference managers handle in-text citations differently. Are you using Bookends to insert temporary pale blue in-text citations that are then scanned? If so, is it a case where Bookends had been producing ‘p.’ and ‘pp.’ as you want in the past and suddenly stopped? Or are you trying to get a desired behavior for the first time?
If Bookends is your ref manager, you need to be sure it’s properly paired with Mellel at both ends: Mellel needs to be your chosen word processor in Bookends, Bookends needs to be your chosen reference manager in Mellel, and Bookends needs to be running with a database open for any of the automatic formatting to work.
Each of the different bibliographic styles you can see in Bookends’ Format Manager has its own mandated treatment for page numbers. Some call for ‘p.’ when there’s just one page number and ‘pp.’ when there’s a range, but others punctuate page numbers and ranges in entirely different ways. So if you switch bibliographic styles, accidentally or on purpose, these abbreviations might appear and disappear.
If you want page numbers to appear in the finished in-text citation in whatever way is called for by the bibliographic style currently chosen in Bookends, you should edit Mellel’s pale blue temporary citation objects so as to add an at sign @ followed by the page number(s), all at the end of the pale blue field with a dotted boundary, e.g.
@65
@65-66
Some helpful advice about the fine points of this editing process are in the Mellel Guide and Different reference managers handle in-text citations differently. Are you using Bookends to insert temporary pale blue in-text citations that are then scanned? If so, is it a case where Bookends had been producing ‘p.’ and ‘pp.’ as you want in the past and suddenly stopped? Or are you trying to get a desired behavior for the first time?
If Bookends is your ref manager, you need to be sure it’s properly paired with Mellel at both ends: Mellel needs to be your chosen word processor in Bookends, Bookends needs to be your chosen reference manager in Mellel, and Bookends needs to be running with a database open for any of the automatic formatting to work.
Each of the different bibliographic styles you can see in Bookends’ Format Manager has its own mandated treatment for page numbers. Some call for ‘p.’ when there’s just one page number and ‘pp.’ when there’s a range, but others punctuate page numbers and ranges in entirely different ways. So if you switch bibliographic styles, accidentally or on purpose, these abbreviations might appear and disappear.
If you want page numbers to appear in the finished in-text citation in whatever way is called for by the bibliographic style currently chosen in Bookends, you should edit Mellel’s pale blue temporary citation objects so as to add an at sign @ followed by the page number(s), all at the end of the pale blue field with a dotted boundary, e.g.
@65
@65-66
Some helpful advice about the fine points of this kind of editing are in the Mellel Guide and "Page numbers in citation objects" -- an informative thread from 2008.
If you should want ‘p.’ and ‘pp.’ to appear whether the current style wants them or not, the Bookends User Guide says you can force that by putting what you want between backslashes in the citation object, like this:
\p. 65\
\pp. 65-6\
but then you woudn't be automating the addition of the abbreviations at all. Strikes me as a last resort.
If Bookends is your ref manager, you need to be sure it’s properly paired with Mellel at both ends: Mellel needs to be your chosen word processor in Bookends, Bookends needs to be your chosen reference manager in Mellel, and Bookends needs to be running with a database open for any of the automatic formatting to work.
Each of the different bibliographic styles you can see in Bookends’ Format Manager has its own mandated treatment for page numbers. Some call for ‘p.’ when there’s just one page number and ‘pp.’ when there’s a range, but others punctuate page numbers and ranges in entirely different ways. So if you switch bibliographic styles, accidentally or on purpose, these abbreviations might appear and disappear.
If you want page numbers to appear in the finished in-text citation in whatever way is called for by the bibliographic style currently chosen in Bookends, you should edit Mellel’s pale blue temporary citation objects so as to add an at sign @ followed by the page number(s), all at the end of the pale blue field with a dotted boundary, e.g.
@65
@65-66
Some helpful advice about the fine points of this editing process are in the Mellel Guide and Different reference managers handle in-text citations differently. Are you using Bookends to insert temporary pale blue in-text citations that are then scanned? If so, is it a case where Bookends had been producing ‘p.’ and ‘pp.’ as you want in the past and suddenly stopped? Or are you trying to get a desired behavior for the first time?
If Bookends is your ref manager, you need to be sure it’s properly paired with Mellel at both ends: Mellel needs to be your chosen word processor in Bookends, Bookends needs to be your chosen reference manager in Mellel, and Bookends needs to be running with a database open for any of the automatic formatting to work.
Each of the different bibliographic styles you can see in Bookends’ Format Manager has its own mandated treatment for page numbers. Some call for ‘p.’ when there’s just one page number and ‘pp.’ when there’s a range, but others punctuate page numbers and ranges in entirely different ways. So if you switch bibliographic styles, accidentally or on purpose, these abbreviations might appear and disappear.
If you want page numbers to appear in the finished in-text citation in whatever way is called for by the bibliographic style currently chosen in Bookends, you should edit Mellel’s pale blue temporary citation objects so as to add an at sign @ followed by the page number(s), all at the end of the pale blue field with a dotted boundary, e.g.
@65
@65-66
Some helpful advice about the fine points of this kind of editing are in the Mellel Guide and "Page numbers in citation objects" -- an informative thread from 2008.
If you should want ‘p.’ and ‘pp.’ to appear whether the current style wants them or not, the Bookends User Guide says you can force that by putting what you want between backslashes in the citation object, like this:
\p. 65\
\pp. 65-6\
but then you woudn't be automating the addition of the abbreviations at all. Strikes me as a last resort.
Re: Forcing 'p.' or 'pp.' in front of the p. no. in citations
Hi, this is a Bookends issue, not Mellel. Please feel free to post on our forum.
To answer your question, in the format's -> Citations Options -> Common Settings you'll see where the output for Cited Papers is configured. In the "Before" field, enter
, p. ^, pp. (there is a space after each period)
This tell Bookends to use ", p. " if there is just one page, and ", pp. " if there is a range.
Jon
Sonny Software
To answer your question, in the format's -> Citations Options -> Common Settings you'll see where the output for Cited Papers is configured. In the "Before" field, enter
, p. ^, pp. (there is a space after each period)
This tell Bookends to use ", p. " if there is just one page, and ", pp. " if there is a range.
Jon
Sonny Software
